Saturday, June 29, 2019

In this newsletter:
    Court Resurfacing
    Court Cleaning 
    July 4th Play and Potluck ****

Court Resurfacing

The Quail Creek Pickleball Courts are going to be resurfaced in July.  Here are the dates that the courts listed won't be available to play on.  

Courts 5/6/7/8  July 8th - 15th
Courts 3/4/15/16  July 15th - 22nd



Pickleball courts are washed and cleaned on rotating Thursdays (weather permitting):

            Court Number                    Date                                 Time
    Happy 4th of July Holiday          July 4                                             N/A
                    15,16                                  July 11                                  6:30am - 8 am
                    13,14                                  July 18                                  6:30am - 8 am
                      1, 2                                   July 25                                  6:30am - 8 am

                  Court Number                       Date                                              Time       
                  9, 10, 11, 12                         August 1                                    6:30am - 10am
                       13,14                                August 8                                    6:30am - 10 am
                        1,2                                  August 15                                  6:30am - 10am
                  5, 6, 7, 8                              August 22                                  6:30am - 10am
                 3, 4, 15, 16                            August 29                                  6:30am -  10am

Celebration !!!

QC  Pickleball  
Play and Potluck

Thursday Evening 7 to 9 PM

Please Bring 
Appetizer to Share
Beverage of Choice

No sign up needed
Open Play / Under the lights
Just come enjoy. 
Rumor has it that we will be able to see fireworks from Sahuarita !



Saturday, June 15, 2019


   **IN YOUR BAG**


Beginning July 8th

Beginning July 15th
 COURTS 3/4/15/16 Will BE CLOSED 

The work is expected to take a week for each section.
All other courts will be open.  
These courts were chosen by the contractor due to the court conditions.

The courts will also be blocked out on our online court reservation system.  
Next year the remaining courts will be resurfaced.

In Your Pickleball Ball Bag

Besides your paddle include:

Lots of Water
Copy of your ID
Copy of your medical card
Name & phone number of emergency 

Review of Open Play
Started on the 10th 

  • Open Play will take place from 7 am to 9 am Monday/Tuesday/Thursday/Friday/Saturday
  • Open Play courts on Monday/Tuesday/Thursday/Friday will be divided into 3 courts for Mens Doubles/3 courts for Womens Doubles, and  2 courts for Mixed in a RR format.
  • QCPC members may come down at any time to play, but the RR will start at 7 am with a signup at the courts just prior to that. Those arriving later than that should use the paddle stacking regimen for being worked into the court. 
  • Saturdays courts 5-12 will be mixed Open Play not RR
  • Wednesdays will continue to be a Mixed RR
  • Sundays will be a continue to be Community Play from 7 am to 9 am
  • Open Play on Monday and Thursday evenings will run from 7 pm to 9pm (change from 6pm to 8 pm)


A process (called paddle stacking) for rotating players onto courts is used when needed.  Stack four (4) paddles together outside of court 11.  When a game is finished, the first group of 4 paddles will rotate onto open court; the next group of 4 takes the next open court when the game is finished.  Players coming off the courts will stack their paddles at the end.  First is furthest to the left, end is further to the right when looking at the paddles.  When members are waiting, players must exit court at end of game.




Saturday, June 8, 2019

In This Newsletter:     
  • POA update on the QCPC Proposal
  • QCPC Board Proposal to POA on Guest Fees
  • New effort to promote Open Play
  • Monday/Thursday night Open Play

POA  Proposal Update

The POA had asked the QCPC for our proposal to Tournament/Guest Fees and Parking.  We submitted our proposal (in last weeks newsletter and below).  We were originally on the agenda for the June 17th POA Board meeting.  The POA Board response is below:

Thanks for your note and the proposal put together by you and your board.  In order to have a more in depth discussion with you and your immediate club board, and after discussion, we would like to meet and review your proposal and the POA Board guidelines that Connie and I have provided.   Until we have had that opportunity, most likely in July due to travel and vacation schedules, we feel it better to table putting this topic on the June board meeting agenda.  

I have submitted your email and proposal to the full board so they may have an opportunity to evaluate and develop any questions needed to be answered before any direction or decision is made. As soon as I can coordinate such a meeting, again with you and your direct club board, I will be back in touch to firm up dates and times.

We appreciate the time and effort on your part and we want to insure that whatever rules and procedures are adopted that they are the right thing for all Quail Creek residents. Feel free to contact me directly with any additional questions or data you would like to provide.

Thanks and I'll be back with you on this soon.

QCPC Board Proposal to POA on Guest Fees

Last week the newsletter went over the QCPC Proposal to the POA concerning Tournaments, Usage Fee and parking.  This week is the 2nd portion of our proposal - Guest Fees

  1. Establish a Guest Use Fee for individuals
    1. Payment of Guest Use Fee would grant a limited right to play at QC with QC residents
                                         i.    It is important to QCPC members to be able to regularly play with players from outside QC.  This is especially true for higher level players who lack sufficient competition within QC and during the summer season when many QCPC players are away.  However, these guest players should contribute financially to the POA/QCPC via a Guest Use Fee.
                                       ii.    Fee-paying guests will only be allowed to play in QC as invited guests of QC residents
                                      iii.    The Guest Use Fee would not apply to house guests in QC, or to visiting registered Robson Guests.
                                      iv.    The Guest Use Fee would apply to any other non-resident who plays more than twice per quarter as a guest of a QC resident
                                       v.    Fee-paying guests would not be permitted to reserve courts or participate in Club-only activities
                                      vi.    Initial Guest Use Fee would be $30 per quarter, but may be adjusted by QCPC as seasons and demand require.
    1. Fee implementation
                                         i.    QC hosts would purchase a wrist band (different colors for different time periods - i.e., blue for Jan-March, orange for April-June, etc.) for applicable non-resident guest players.  QC hosts would be responsible for collecting signed Robson waiver forms from guest players.
1.   The purchase would be handled by the Treasurer of the QCPC who would hand out the wrist band and deposit the proceeds for the benefit of the POA/QCPC. The QCPC Treasurer would also collect  the signed Robson waiver forms
2.   Wrist band would be non-transferrable
                                       ii.    All QCPC Policies & Procedures limiting the number of guests and governing court dress and behavior will remain applicable
                                      iii.    Visibility
1.   Wrist bands would be required to be worn by applicable non-residents while playing in QC
2.   Community Service Patrol may request that guests show wrist bands at the Gatehouse to be allowed entrance to the QC courts
3.   Wrist bands will make it easier to enforce rules and restrictions governing applicable non-resident guest players
4.   Wrist bands will give QCPC members and QC residents assurance that frequent guest players are paying their fair share
    1. QCPC estimates that 15-30 non-residents would purchase wrist bands for at least one quarter of the year.

Open Play Update

Many members of the QCPC have been telling the Board that the Club needs to take some action to improve the turnout for Open Play.  In response the Board has come up with a trial plan to draw more players to Open Play. 
  1. Effective June 10th Organized Play for all levels has been suspended for the summer. 
  2. Effective June 10th the QCPC will offer the following:
    • Open Play will take place from 7 am to 9 am Monday/Tuesday/Thursday/Friday/Saturday
    • Open Play courts on Monday/Tuesday/Thursday/Friday will be divided into 3 courts for Mens Doubles/3 courts for Womens Doubles, and  2 courts for Mixed in a RR format.
    • QCPC members may come down at any time to play, but the RR will start at 7 am with a signup at the courts just prior to that. Those arriving later than that should use the paddle stacking regimen for being worked into the court. 
    • Saturdays courts 5-12 will be mixed Open Play not RR
    • Wednesdays will continue to be a Mixed RR
    • Sundays will be a continue to be Community Play from 7 am to 9 am
    • Open Play on Monday and Thursday evenings will run from 7 pm to 9pm (change from 6pm to 8 pm)
We will monitor participation and get feedback from Club members during this experiment.  We can change, expand, or eliminate as needed.  




Saturday, June 1, 2019

In This Newsletter:

  • Proposed Changes the QCPC Board approved for Tournaments
  • Organized Play Skill Level 2.5/3.0 time update
  • Organized Play Skill Level 3.0/3.5 discontinued for summer
  • Dura 40 pickleballs
  • Court Cleaning Schedule

Proposal by QCPC Board to the QC POA 

The QC POA has asked the QCPC Board to come up with suggestions that will cover the following concerns:

The POA request:
  • That all tournaments be 4-6 weeks apart
  • That a fee be charged for court usage for non-QC tournaments.  The fee would be $100/court or $1,600 per day
  • That parking during the tournament be eliminated from E. Quail Crossing Blvd
  • Come up with a Guest Usage fee for non-members playing at QC courts (the QCPC proposal will be published in next weeks newsletter)
We were asked to republish the proposed changes to tournaments and want members to know the QCPC board is in dialog with the POA board on this.

Quail Creek Pickleball Club
Fundraising Proposal


The Quail Creek Pickleball Club (QCPC) serves as steward of the Quail Creek POA (POA) pickleball assets.  The POA would like for QCPC to assist financially with present and future expenses associated with the pickleball courts.  In addition, QCPC members and QC residents have expressed concerns about the unfairness of non-residents using QC courts without contributing financially to them.  Currently, QCPC is not allowed to charge for the use of QC pickleball courts.  Last, POA Board members have asked QCPC to provide an alternative to parking vehicles on Quail Crossing Boulevard during pickleball tournaments. 

This fundraising and guest fee proposal (discussed in the next newsletter) addresses each of these issues. 

  1. Charge a Facility Fee for non-QC tournaments (to be paid only by non-residents)
    1. QCPC supports three tournaments at QC
                                         i.    One of QCPC’s objectives is to encourage active participation in “events and tournaments conducted in accordance with the United States Pickleball Association.” Article I, Section 2, QCPC By-Laws
                                       ii.    Current tournaments (minimum one month apart)
1.   The Southern Arizona Senior Games (proposed for February 25-27, 2020) is operated by Green Valley Recreation, a non-profit entity
2.   Quail Creek Classic (proposed for March 28-29, 2020) is operated by QCPC volunteers for the benefit of St. Jude’s Children’s Hospital, a non-profit entity and the designated charity for the United States Pickleball Association  
3.   The Green Valley Firefighter’s Tournament (proposed for May 1-2, 2020) supports local firefighters through the affiliated non-profit entity
4.   Each of these tournaments provides positive publicity for QC and QCPC by attracting hundreds of participants, including those living out-of-state or elsewhere in Arizona
    1. Maximum feasible daily facility fee
                                         i.    Active adult communities and private pickleball facilities typically charge $500 or less per day to third-party operators of tournaments
                                       ii.    QCPC previously suggested to resident POA Board members a fee of $500 per day, an amount QCPC believes is reasonable and most appropriate
                                      iii.    The maximum fee that QCPC could support is:
1.   $750/day for tournaments with 200 or fewer non-residents
2.   $1,200/day for tournaments with 201-300 non-residents
3.   $1,750/day for tournaments with 301 or more non-residents
a.   Due to the economics of operating longer tournaments (3-4 days) with 16 courts, the maximum total fee that QCPC can support for a three or four day tournament is $5,250.
4.   QCPC proposes that tournament operators pass on the cost of the facility fee only to non-QC participants (protecting QC residents, but also reducing total tournament revenue)
5.   QCPC does not know whether the non-profit entities involved can or will continue to operate tournaments in QC with fees at these elevated levels 
    1. Tournament Parking Alternatives
                                        i.    Resident POA Board members asked QCPC to investigate alternatives to parking vehicles on Quail Crossing Blvd. during tournaments
                                       ii.    Need parking for an estimated 70-110 vehicles.
                                      iii.    Parking at the Quail Creek–Veterans Park across Nogales Highway is not feasible
a.   Town of Sahuarita will require POA to provide a Certificate of Insurance and Endorsement for one million dollars per occurrence naming the Town as an additional insured.
b.   Safe shuttle service (due to distance and crossing a busy public road) would be needed and is either not available or prohibitively expensive
                                                                                         i.    Can’t use public transportation (Dial-a-Ride) or school bus.
                                                                                       ii.    Two private vendors declined
                                                                                      iii.    Green Valley Airport Shuttle would charge $1,500 per day
                                      iv.    Off-road parking within Quail Creek
1.   The Grill parking lot has 210 parking spaces; could cone-off a minority of spaces to use for tournament parking (e.g., the two western-most rows farthest  from the Grill entrance for a total of 95 spaces).
2.   CATC parking lot has 178 parking spaces; could cone-off a minority of spaces for overflow parking, if needed (e.g., the two eastern-most rows farthest from the CATC entrance for a total of 76 spaces).
3.   Since the vast majority of tournament players depart by mid-afternoon, tournament parking will have little or no effect on dinner-time parking at the Grill. 
4.   Due to the distance from the courts, parking at either of these locations would require shuttle van service for each full day 
a.   Golf carts lack sufficient capacity or speed to serve as shuttles
b.   May be able to rent a van if insurance/liability issues for van and drivers can be worked out
                                       v.    Allow off-road parking on undeveloped land near the QC pickleball courts

1.   If close enough, shuttle service may not be necessary

The QCPC board's line of communication for its member's opinions is through its officers.  This position does not preclude any member from directly contacting POA board members with their opinions.  For additional information on what non-board members are doing with respect to how these changes will impact fundraisers held at Quail Creek, including St Jude’s, contact Lenny Friedman.

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Organized Play 2.5/3.0 Time Change
Effective June 4th the Organized Play 2.5/3.0 will start
 at 7 am

Organized Play 3.0/3.5 Suspended for Summer
The Organized Play Skill Level 3.0/3.5 has been suspended for the Summer due to players consensus to disband for the summer.  Players are encouraged to still come down to the courts and play in Open Play.

Dura 40 Pickleballs

You will notice 4 new ball holders and pickleballs at the courts.  The new balls are Dura 40, which are a seamless one piece ball that are used in tournament play.  The club has purchased these balls for usage by any member of the club.  Try it and see how different it plays.  Remember, don't go after any ball that goes over the fence, and please return the balls to the proper holder.  Also, a very special Thank You to Gary Mencimer for making and hanging up the new ball holders.

Court Cleaning Schedule
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The courts are now cleaned every Thursday on a rotating schedule.  All court cleaning will begin at 6:30am and  depending on how many courts are being cleaned it will either be finished by 8 am or 10 am.  The schedule is listed by week on the pickleball court reservation calendar and posted on the bulletin board